ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

ХАММЕРы не ломаются, они болеют. Взаимопомощь при ремонте. Советы, рекомендации, "рецепты" ... :remont:
Аватара пользователя
николаи
Сообщения: 8544
Зарегистрирован: 24 сен 2010, 20:53
Репутация: 31
Город / City: Екатеринбург
Возраст / Age: 50
Имя: Николай
Откуда: ЕКАТЕРИНБУРГ т 89122623461
Благодарил (а): 4 раза
Поблагодарили: 188 раз

ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

Сообщение николаи »

Outside Lock U-Joints by Series

Series Width Cap
1210 2.438 1.062 All 4 caps
1310 3.219 1.062 All 4 caps
1330 3.622 1.062 All 4 caps

1310 BC (Ford) 3.219 2 @ 1.062 (shaft) 2 @ 1.125 (pinion)
1330 BC (Ford) 3.622 2 @ 1.062 (shaft) 2 @ 1.125 (pinion)

1350 3.622 1.188 All 4 caps
1410 4.188 1.188 All 4 caps

Handy Measurement Conversion
1.062 = 1 1/16 2.438 = 2 7/16
1.125 = 1 1/8 3.219 = 3 7/32 (3 1/4 is OK)
1.188 = 1 3/16 3.688 = 3 5/8
4.188 = 4 3/16 (4 1/4 is OK)
Outside Lock U-Joints Photos

This outside lock pinion yoke is used with outside lock U-Joints. The 2 extra snap rings are not used.

The driveshaft tube weld yoke has grooves machined in the edge where the snap rings clip in. Measure from groove to groove.





1210 U-Joint Series is a small U-Joint not used on any current production vehicles. 1.062 cap and 2.438 width. (1 1/16 x 2 7/16)

1310 U-Joint Series is the most common U-Joint ever used. It is still used on OE applications. 1.062 cap and 3.219 width. (1 1/16 x 3 1/4 close)

1330 U-Joint Series is very common and used on OE production. 1.0625 cap and 3.622 width. (1 1/16 x 3 5/8)

1350 U-Joint Series is used on trucks mostly for OE. It is also a Hi-Performance upgrade on cars. 1.188 cap and 3.622 width. (1 3/16 x 3 5/8)

1410 U-Joint Series is on 3/4 and 1 Ton or larger trucks. 1.188 cap and 4.187 width. (1 3/16 x 4 3/8)





Back to Top





Inside Lock U-Joints by Series

Inside Lock U-Joints are measured from the grooves in the caps where the C-clips fit not the overall width of the U-Joint like the outside lock type.

Series Lock Up Width Cap
3RL (S44 GM type) 2.556 1.125 All 4 caps
7260 (Dodge) 2.125 1.078 All 4 caps
7290 2.622 1.126 All 4 caps
Handy Measure Conversion
2.556 =2 9/16 1.125 = 1 1/8
2.125 = 2 1/8 1.078 = 1 1/16 + little bit (.016)
2.622 = 2 5/8 1.126 = 1 1/8 + 1 thousandth
On the left is a Pinion Yoke and UJ for inside lock. The C-clips are facing up to photograph. The clips should be turned down, so they fully insert in the back of the yoke. This locks U-Joint for side to side play and centers it perfectly. Never rely on the bolt and straps to hold it in place and it will not be centered.

On the right is a Inside Lock Weld in type yoke. The C-clips fit on the inner edge.



Inside Lock up U-Joint Photos.

One note on Inside lock U-Joints. The GM 3RL and 7290 are fairly close, but will NOT interchange. Always check the dimensions if not sure. Note: There are other inside lock U-Joints not listed. We have them all. Just call. GM 3RL is 2.556 Inside Lock Up and 1.125 cap

The GM 3RL U-Joint (also called S44)is used mainly on GM vehicles. It has been used since the early 1960's and is still in current production.

Interestingly it was also used on a very few Ford LTDII and T-Bird in 1979. It was also used on some Dodge 4x4 Truck Front Driveshaft Double Cardan CV (constant velocity) Joint. CV-3 in the Driveshaft Types





7260 is 2.125 Inside Lock and 1.078 cap

7260 is referred to as the "small Dodge" joint. It is similar in size to the 1310 but the locks are on the inside. This U-Joint series was used extensively up to 1980's in cars and trucks. The 7260 was even used in Dodge Dually trucks.



7290 is 2.622 Inside Lock and 1.126 cap

The 7290 U-Joint is known as the "Big Dodge" U-Joint. This was used in early passenger cars typically with big block power and manual transmissions. For trucks it varies dramatically and both are usually listed. The only sure way to tell is with dimensions.







Back to Top



Ford Big Cap U-Joints

I hate to pick on Ford but here is another "Better Idea". Starting in the early 1960's Ford started using a pinion yoke that was just 1/16 bigger. This means only the 2 caps that go in the pinion yoke are .062 larger than all the others. Only those 2 caps.

All 8" Ford to our knowledge have 1 1/8 caps and a high percentage of 9" Ford Differentials have 1 1/8 caps. Both differentials were only produced with 1310 and 1330 U-Joints. 1350 was never an OE yoke. We do have 1350 Pinion yokes available for High Horse Power applications.

This photo (click it) illustrates the difference in Ford Pinion yokes (both are quite similar). The pinion yoke on the left is a standard cap at 1 1/16 and has the correct U-Joint cap. The yoke on the right is a BC (Big Cap) and requires a 1.125 cap. A standard 1 1/16 cap is in it and it fits loose. A paper clip is inserted in one edge to illustrate the amount of play. Check this carefully. We have other ways to check. Please call.

If you see any play in the UJ cap and the pinion yoke. IT IS TO MUCH! If there is play there are 2 possibilities. One is the pinion yoke is worn or 2. (more likely) is the wrong UJ cap is on the driveshaft. If you have the wrong U-Joint in the pinion yoke it will typically have a hi-speed vibration, this would be speeds from 50 on up. In addition you will see shiny rub marks inside the pinion yoke. There should never be any shiny rub marks.

In defense of Ford I can see a (possible) reason the Big Cap was used. All of these yokes use a U-Bolt to hold the U-Joint in place. With a U-Bolt you can apply enough force to distort the U-Joint cap slightly. Then the needle bearings do not rotate and you will ruin a U-Joint in less than a 1000 miles. Torque load is 15-18 lb.ft. With the thicker cap it was harder to distort the cap. You can not get a torque wrench to the nuts. So pull it snug and a bit more. STOP. Do not tighten as tight as tight as possible. For security use a little Blue Lock-Tite on the threads.
Remember- H1s go to war,H1s are just HMMWVs dressed up for the prom anyway. H2s go to the mall. Hummer, every drive is an adventure! http://www.drive2.ru/cars/hummer/h1/h1/nikolai8618/ Изображение
mraaaooo
Сообщения: 950
Зарегистрирован: 21 окт 2010, 02:26
Репутация: 9
Благодарил (а): 1 раз
Поблагодарили: 13 раз

Re: ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

Сообщение mraaaooo »

ты чего их решил идентить??
97' HMCS B9 TD, 06' HMDS B25 DMAX W2
Аватара пользователя
николаи
Сообщения: 8544
Зарегистрирован: 24 сен 2010, 20:53
Репутация: 31
Город / City: Екатеринбург
Возраст / Age: 50
Имя: Николай
Откуда: ЕКАТЕРИНБУРГ т 89122623461
Благодарил (а): 4 раза
Поблагодарили: 188 раз

Re: ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

Сообщение николаи »

mraaaooo писал(а):ты чего их решил идентить??
буду собирать с 1410 либо с 1310 серией ...чтоб меня :resent: ..комплектующие у них закажу всякие ЙОКИ и СЛИПЫ....а валы тут сварю и отбалансю..
Remember- H1s go to war,H1s are just HMMWVs dressed up for the prom anyway. H2s go to the mall. Hummer, every drive is an adventure! http://www.drive2.ru/cars/hummer/h1/h1/nikolai8618/ Изображение
mraaaooo
Сообщения: 950
Зарегистрирован: 21 окт 2010, 02:26
Репутация: 9
Благодарил (а): 1 раз
Поблагодарили: 13 раз

Re: ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

Сообщение mraaaooo »

допустим трубу крепко легированную молибденом и ванадием ты найдешь
кто будет точить посадочные под крестовины??

зачем тебе это счастье?
97' HMCS B9 TD, 06' HMDS B25 DMAX W2
Аватара пользователя
николаи
Сообщения: 8544
Зарегистрирован: 24 сен 2010, 20:53
Репутация: 31
Город / City: Екатеринбург
Возраст / Age: 50
Имя: Николай
Откуда: ЕКАТЕРИНБУРГ т 89122623461
Благодарил (а): 4 раза
Поблагодарили: 188 раз

Re: ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

Сообщение николаи »

mraaaooo писал(а):допустим трубу крепко легированную молибденом и ванадием ты найдешь
кто будет точить посадочные под крестовины??

зачем тебе это счастье?
ЕНД ЙОКИ я тоже там закажу..ПИНЬОН ЙОКИ..тоже .ФЛАНЦЫ тоже есть.. http://www.driveshaftspecialist.com/default.html .................................. http://www.drive-lines.com/
Remember- H1s go to war,H1s are just HMMWVs dressed up for the prom anyway. H2s go to the mall. Hummer, every drive is an adventure! http://www.drive2.ru/cars/hummer/h1/h1/nikolai8618/ Изображение
mraaaooo
Сообщения: 950
Зарегистрирован: 21 окт 2010, 02:26
Репутация: 9
Благодарил (а): 1 раз
Поблагодарили: 13 раз

Re: ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

Сообщение mraaaooo »

тогда добавляй в оба вала резиновый демпфер
пропадет стук при переключениях
97' HMCS B9 TD, 06' HMDS B25 DMAX W2
Аватара пользователя
николаи
Сообщения: 8544
Зарегистрирован: 24 сен 2010, 20:53
Репутация: 31
Город / City: Екатеринбург
Возраст / Age: 50
Имя: Николай
Откуда: ЕКАТЕРИНБУРГ т 89122623461
Благодарил (а): 4 раза
Поблагодарили: 188 раз

ОБНОВЛЕНИЕ ИНФО..

Сообщение николаи »

Remember- H1s go to war,H1s are just HMMWVs dressed up for the prom anyway. H2s go to the mall. Hummer, every drive is an adventure! http://www.drive2.ru/cars/hummer/h1/h1/nikolai8618/ Изображение
Аватара пользователя
forward
Сообщения: 4895
Зарегистрирован: 27 окт 2010, 20:53
Репутация: 23
Город / City: Чебоксары +79053468986
Возраст / Age: 51
Имя: Игорь
Благодарил (а): 105 раз
Поблагодарили: 61 раз

Re: ИДЕНТЕФИКАЦИЯ КРЕСТОВИН!!!

Сообщение forward »

хороший магаз
Ответить

Вернуться в «ПОЛОМАЛСЯ !!!»